5 Ways Grand Theft Auto IV is Better Than GTA V

5 Ways Grand Theft Auto IV is Better Than GTA V

It goes without saying that we at Gamers Heroes love Grand Theft Auto V — not only did we give it a 10 out of 10 in our review, we have also tirelessly guided the entirety of GTA V in less than a week. Despite all of this, however, we feel like Grand Theft Auto IV did some things better than Grand Theft Auto V. Here are five things that would make Grand Theft Auto V an 11 out of 10 in our books.

Better Radio Stations

Grand Theft Auto V might have a whopping 86-song soundtrack, but artists like Muse and Suicidal Tendencies just don’t have the same impact as Kanye West or Queen. One particularly disgruntled listener in Grand Theft Auto V that complained about FlyLo FM’s music subtly hints that the game’s soundtrack could be better.

It should also be noted that for an area based around Los Angeles, the birthplace of punk music, there is no punk station to speak of — something Grand Theft Auto IV had in the form of LCHC (hosted by Jimmy Gestapo of Murphy’s Law fame).

PC Version/Modding Abilities

In this day and age of quad-core processors and cutting edge gameplay, it is somewhat disappointing to see Grand Theft Auto V get a console-only release. While there is talk of a PC version on the horizon, the framerate dips and 720p graphics of both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions makes it feel like the game is not reaching its full potential.

Modders were able to do some incredible things with the PC release of Grand Theft Auto IV. Excellent graphics with the iCEnhancer mod is just the tip of the iceberg — other improvements in the form of new vehicles, weapons, and even characters. This variety and fidelity has given Grand Theft Auto IV legs five years after its initial release — imagine what the modding community could do with Grand Theft Auto V.

Comedians

Even though there were only a handful of comedy clubs across Liberty City, the inclusion of Ricky Gervais and Katt Williams gave a touch of personality to Grand Theft Auto IV. Doing heists and jacking cars 24/7 can cause some disconnect between you and the character, but actually driving to see some honest-to-god stand up from a AAA comedian makes the game that much more atmospheric.

Better Supporting Characters

Say what you will about Roman Bellic, but he knew how to make an impression in Grand Theft Auto IV. Not only was “Mr. Bowling” a memorable character in the game, there was also Packie McReary, Little Jacob, Gay Tony, and countless others that made up Grand Theft Auto IV’s diverse world.

That’s not to say that Grand Theft Auto V’s characters are as dull as dishwater, but wannabe gangsters like Jimmy just don’t give off the same impression as the juicing Brucie.

GTA IV’s Multiplayer is Free of DLC

Online multiplayer in Grand Theft Auto IV simple to set up — you log in, you choose your mode, and you’re good to go.

Not only is GTA Online in Grand Theft Auto V not live, an XML file on Rockstar Games’ site hints at “cash cards” for the game that trade real-world currency for in-game dosh. While still speculation, this would mean that gamers who sink in the most money will come out on top.

  • Jonathan Gagnon-Roy

    No punk music?!?!?! Channel X has circle jerks, off, fear, adolescents, to name a few. If you say there’s no punk music I’m afraid to hear what you call punk…

    • Buck Waste

      Good shit, but I wouldnt’ve minded a goddamn metal station. The west coast has some of the best metal to offer, why not have a metal station!

      • SUGI PULA

        A Bay Area Thrash station would’ve killed…or an underground Metal station. Instead, we have mostly hip crap, pop crap and generic “rock” music. Epic Fail.

  • Jonathan Gagnon-Roy

    No punk music?!?!?! Channel X has circle jerks, off, fear, adolescents, to name a few. If you say there’s no punk music I’m afraid to hear what you call punk…

    • Buck Waste

      Good shit, but I wouldnt’ve minded a goddamn metal station. The west coast has some of the best metal to offer, why not have a metal station!

      • SUGI PULA

        A Bay Area Thrash station would’ve killed…or an underground Metal station. Instead, we have mostly hip crap, pop crap and generic “rock” music. Epic Fail.

        • PStashion Dontwork

          ^PEDOPHILE^

          • SUGI PULA

            Your dad? No wonder you turned into a console fag…
            Our condolences. =(

          • PStashion Dontwork

            yup, my dad molested your whole family, from diaper to grave!

          • PStashion Dontwork

            and you are the end result! and walking and talking pile of feces and jizm

  • Red

    i wouldnt really count modding and pc version as alot of people cant access that stuff. and if you need mods to enjoy a game then that means the game was not for you in the first place.

    • BoTuLoX

      So, you meet this girl on a blind date club. Good looking, decent personality, you chat for a bit. She might be interested in a second date, gives you her facebook name and moves onto the next guy.
      Then her separated-at-birth sister comes, they don’t know each other. It’s just like the previous girl, but she has bigger firm tits, her face’s cuter, and you both share a lot of interests in music, videogames, movies and you even have the same favorite brand of scotch. She’s obviously interested and gives you her facebook account and mobile number.

      Who would you pick?

      • Red

        Neither cause i dont like girls lol

        • IchiYamamoto

          Those 3DPD humans, am I right?

  • Red Harlow

    i wouldnt really count modding and pc version as alot of people cant access that stuff. and if you need mods to enjoy a game then that means the game was not for you in the first place.

    • BoTuLoX

      So, you meet this girl on a blind date club. Good looking, decent personality, you chat for a bit. She might be interested in a second date, gives you her facebook name and moves onto the next guy.
      Then her separated-at-birth sister comes, they don’t know each other. It’s just like the previous girl, but she has bigger firm tits, her face’s cuter, and you both share a lot of interests in music, videogames, movies and you even have the same favorite brand of scotch. She’s obviously interested and gives you her facebook account and mobile number.

      Who would you pick?

      • Red Harlow

        Neither cause i dont like girls lol

        • IchiYamamoto

          Those 3DPD humans, am I right?

      • David Quan

        It’s more like you done plastic surgery to the first one rather than a brand new one comes along

      • Just Meat

        That’s great BoTuLoX but who has the longer legs, better arse, brunette, blonde, ginger (my fave, no freckles though)? I don’t like Scotch either and I also do not want my partner to know so I would pick the quieter more reserved 1, they usually end up being better in bed. Wait we’re talking bout Modifications aren’t we, good ol’ plastic surgery.

    • SUGI PULA

      “i wouldnt really count modding and pc version as alot of people cant access that stuff.”

      Which would mean that they’re pretty stupid…modding is very easy and there are tons of forums which show you exactly how they’re used / installed. Plenty of YouTube videos as well…ignorance is no excuse.

      “and if you need mods to enjoy a game then that means the game was not for you in the first place.”

      Filthy console peasant logic…mods enhance games with extra content and keep interest strong for several years after release. If adding extra content was such a detriment, DLC’s wouldn’t exist either…modding is exactly the same but without extra costs.

      • SWJS

        Modding is also user content created by people who don’t have degrees in game development. As a result, mods are usually broken, buggy and janky, which causes the game to crash. Even with creation kit modded games are about as stable as nitro glycerin.

        Mods are always usually way too ambiguous too, because modders usually try to create something in game that is a bitch to code and is incompatable with the game’s engine, which also causes problems. DLCs are created by people with years of experience and the money to invest in quality addons.

        Just because there’s a lot of something and it’s free doesn’t mean it’s high quality and better than something you’d normally pay for. Just look at F2P MMOs, they’re more expensive that subscription based MMOs because of the pay-to-win and paygate garbage.

        And just because you know how to do something doesn’t mean everyone else will. Some people may not be tech savvy, or may just be getting into PC gaming. When you respont with hateful, stuck up ignorance like that, you’re representing PC gamers, and may in fact be turning people away from your oh so ‘superior maser race.’ A bully has very few friends when he needs them most.

        Typical ignorant, stuck up ‘PC Master Race.’ So proud of the machine they spent hundreds or thousand of dollars to build they refuse to acknowledge the PC’s drawbacks. Word for the wise: Spitting on people who have a job that doesn’t pay $1000 a week doesn’t mean one is better, it just mean one has it easy and more than they deserve without even realising the value of what they have.

        • SUGI PULA

          “Modding is also user content created by people who don’t have degrees in game development.”

          One needs a piece of paper to pursue a given hobby? Considering the fact that we modders are hobbyists, your argument seems pretty weak to me…

          “As a result, mods are usually broken, buggy and janky, which causes the game to crash.”

          Hogwash…I have tons of mods for numerous games which work perfectly fine. When I come across a bad one, I simply uninstall it and warn others. Most modders do exactly the same thing…and let’s not forget how those devs with their precious “degrees” can create tons of glitchy content as well.

          “Even with creation kit modded games are about as stable as nitro glycerin.”

          If you use unstable / shoddy mods, yes…but what’s preventing you from removing them and simply utilizing the ones that work?

          “Mods are always usually way too ambiguous too, because modders usually try to create something in game that is a bitch to code and is incompatable with the game’s engine, which also causes problems.”

          A rather broad statement…your “one size fits all” argument only demonstrates how ignorant you are concerning the subject. A mod can be a very simple enhancement which barely changes anything or a very complex modification which changes the game drastically…or anything in between. Some will work properly, some will not…don’t give me this “always usually” nonsense because it’s clear that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

          “DLCs are created by people with years of experience and the money to invest in quality addons.”

          Yeah, and they ALWAYS work properly…right? LOL

          What, you’ve “never” come across a better mod which can be used as an alternative to DLC content? Cut the BS, dude…seriously, get a clue.

          “Just because there’s a lot of something and it’s free doesn’t mean it’s high quality and better than something you’d normally pay for.”

          One could say the same regarding your DLC argument…so, what’s your point?

          “Just look at F2P MMOs, they’re more expensive that subscription based MMOs because of the pay-to-win and paygate garbage.”

          Yeah…and? Is this “always” the case? LOL

          “And just because you know how to do something doesn’t mean everyone else will.”

          Not my problem, dude…but if anyone is really this ignorant, I have a simple suggestion:
          https://www.google.com/

          “Some people may not be tech savvy, or may just be getting into PC gaming.”

          Ignorance is no excuse…and one doesn’t have to be an IT “expert” or a “techie” in order to read simple instructions or make some basic changes. Modding is not as complicated as some of you peasants make it out to be…and it certainly doesn’t require a “degree.”

          “When you respont with hateful, stuck up ignorance like that,”

          I didn’t…learn to read.

          “you’re representing PC gamers,”

          Even though I game on several platforms?
          Your argument = invalid.

          “and may in fact be turning people away from your oh so ‘superior maser race.’”

          Ah, of course… The typical console peasant “insult” whenever somebody who prefers the PC as a gaming platform rips your idiotic arguments to shreds…let’s just stick our empty skulls in the sand and call that gamer an “elitist” or a member of some fictional “superior master race.” You, sir, are an idiot…a clueless moron who gives all gamers a bad name. May you and those of your ilk suffer a loooooong, excruciating death. <3

          “A bully has very few friends when he needs them most.”

          I am hardly a “bully” and I don’t “need” anyone…stop with your infantile diversions and let’s stick to the subject. Or are you too incapable?

          “Typical ignorant, stuck up 'PC Master Race.'”

          Typical console peasant diversion…when you have no argument, simply toss in the old “PC Master Race” nonsense and ignore the facts. And still, you wonder why some PC gamers (who happen to game on several platforms) spit on you clueless console fanboys…

          “So proud of the machine they spent hundreds or thousand of dollars to build they refuse to acknowledge the PC's drawbacks.”

          Oh yeah, so many “drawbacks” on the PC:
          Overclocking
          More exclusives
          Cheaper games
          Upgrade options
          Modding options
          Max Settings + higher FPS
          Lack of mandatory online fees
          Emulators for “console exclusives”
          Games from all console generations
          Choice of Operating Systems / multi-boot options
          Choice of controller / TV / monitor and / or monitors
          Cheaper in the long run when you consider the money you’ll save on games / fees / etc.

          Keep still, peasant…you’ve embarrassed yourself enough. And before you start with the “but console games are optimized” nonsense, let’s not ignore that “optimized” means: reducing resolution, reducing / locking the frame-rates, reducing texture sizes (as well as filtering), reducing model poly counts and out-right limiting / reducing the number of particles in a given scene…which means, lower quality games at higher prices.
          Nice "optimization" you've got there… LOL

          “Word for the wise:”

          It’s “word to the wise”…so don’t try to score points if you’re not, umm, “wise” enough to quote correctly.

          “Spitting on people who have a job that doesn't pay $1000 a week doesn't mean one is better,”

          Who claimed anything of the sort? Did I? Learn to read and stop interpreting…

          “it just mean one has it easy and more than they deserve without even realising the value of what they have.”

          Pure commie logic…I would expect nothing less from a clueless peasant. Well, enjoy those jaggies and limitations on your cute little “gaming” toy…that antiquated hardware should serve you nicely for the next 6 to 8 years. LOL

          • EO_XE

            well said

  • Mike Chambers

    I totally agree about better supporting characters in GTA IV. Personally, I thought Niko was also a better protagonist than Michael, Franklin, and Trevor. He’s the most developed character easily, and his internal struggle
    between doing right and wrong after being in a war that totally f*cked
    up his head adds a ton of depth. Then I like how many times the game
    gives you choices to let somebody live or die to make you really get
    involved in some of the moral decisions. Plus he says the funniest sh*t
    of the bunch during his rampages. I like how he’s able to go from caring
    friend to ice-cold, unflinching psychopath killer in the blink of an
    eye. It really shows how messed up his head is.

    That said, I still love GTA V.

    • hesoyamdonMonster

      the biggest problem in GTA IV is no check points, and poor gun play and extremely borring melee attack, and very less weapon

      • Chase

        Yea, the ability to keep every weapon you aquire in GTA V is a great improvement. My biggest complaint is flight control, especially for a helicopter. The constant shaking, rocking back and forth, aiming while in the buzzard, all pretty annoying. They were going for realism, but they made the driving less realistic to make it more controllable, but flying got harder.

        • Chase

          Oh and does somebody want to tell me how a couple of police helicopters kept up with me when I was flying full speed in my army jet? Never seen a helicopter hit Mach 1 before.

        • Shadowsong

          They added in turbulence so of course flying is going to be harder. Now if you want to be a good pilot in the game, you actually need skill, something that you didn’t need in earlier GTA’s.

        • hesoyamdonMonster

          so is it harder than gta4 (flying) flying helicopter was hard on gta4 but i got used to it. saint row 3 made flying helicopter and jet super easy, some times it just doesnt feels right, i still enjoyed it every much.

          • Chase

            Yeah, I think it was just my low flying skill level starting off that I wasn’t used to. Made a trip through flight school and things improved a lot.

        • BayAreaTycoon

          go to flight school to improve your flying and it improves your flying abilites

  • Mike Chambers

    I totally agree about better supporting characters in GTA IV. Personally, I thought Niko was also a better protagonist than Michael, Franklin, and Trevor. He’s the most developed character easily, and his internal struggle
    between doing right and wrong after being in a war that totally f*cked
    up his head adds a ton of depth. Then I like how many times the game
    gives you choices to let somebody live or die to make you really get
    involved in some of the moral decisions. Plus he says the funniest sh*t
    of the bunch during his rampages. I like how he’s able to go from caring
    friend to ice-cold, unflinching psychopath killer in the blink of an
    eye. It really shows how messed up his head is.

    That said, I still love GTA V.

    • hesoyamdonMonster

      the biggest problem in GTA IV is no check points, and poor gun play and extremely borring melee attack, and very less weapon

      • Chase

        Yea, the ability to keep every weapon you aquire in GTA V is a great improvement. My biggest complaint is flight control, especially for a helicopter. The constant shaking, rocking back and forth, aiming while in the buzzard, all pretty annoying. They were going for realism, but they made the driving less realistic to make it more controllable, but flying got harder.

        • Chase

          Oh and does somebody want to tell me how a couple of police helicopters kept up with me when I was flying full speed in my army jet? Never seen a helicopter hit Mach 1 before.

          • HatersGonnaHate SoKeepOnHating

            i HATE those police helicopters so much man. when did LSPD start the DUI’s Occupational Correction program where they put freshly arrested drunks behind the stick of a helicopter?! I mean really!

            its all good though, the AI system is retarded… i just fly close to a building and kaboom!! he must’ve dropped his beer and not notice that obtrusive structure.. XD

        • Shadowsong

          They added in turbulence so of course flying is going to be harder. Now if you want to be a good pilot in the game, you actually need skill, something that you didn’t need in earlier GTA’s.

        • hesoyamdonMonster

          so is it harder than gta4 (flying) flying helicopter was hard on gta4 but i got used to it. saint row 3 made flying helicopter and jet super easy, some times it just doesnt feels right, i still enjoyed it every much.

          • Chase

            Yeah, I think it was just my low flying skill level starting off that I wasn’t used to. Made a trip through flight school and things improved a lot.

        • BayAreaTycoon

          go to flight school to improve your flying and it improves your flying abilites

      • Rick

        Dude in Gta 5 theres only one melee attack, a cruddy looking superman punch. In Gta 4 you have a button for left hand, a button for right hand, a kick button and a counter button which you can build combos off of. GTA 5 is a fucking piece of shit in so many ways, but the lack of serious hand to hand combat is its biggest drawback. Like are you fucking retarded or something…..GTA 4 had far more developed melee combat, there were fucking cage matches in gay tony for fucks sake…..

  • George

    haha nice article man, but I also wanted to add, I kinda miss the driving physics from GTA 4, sure they were very unforgiving, but they were fun because they actually required skill to drive. dont get me wrong, the physics in GTA 5 are awesome too, but the ones in GTA 4 were more fun IMO :D (espececially in online races, they were intense)

    • Sean Detente

      IV required no skill…at all. Seriously, after playing through V a couple of times (missed 100% on the first run), then booting up IV…it was agonizing easy to drive around in a hurry.

  • George

    haha nice article man, but I also wanted to add, I kinda miss the driving physics from GTA 4, sure they were very unforgiving, but they were fun because they actually required skill to drive. dont get me wrong, the physics in GTA 5 are awesome too, but the ones in GTA 4 were more fun IMO :D (espececially in online races, they were intense)

    • Sean Detente

      IV required no skill…at all. Seriously, after playing through V a couple of times (missed 100% on the first run), then booting up IV…it was agonizing easy to drive around in a hurry.

      • sdfag

        Dude GTA 4′s driving sucked, it felt like you were driving on ice, in GTA V you could go pretty damn fast and you could still be able to have decent control of your car, the first time i was driving a car in GTA V i felt like the driving was straight from a racing game, but in GTA 4 when you are going fast, there’s a curve that isn’t even that hard and you are trying to maintain a decent amount of speed everything goes to shit because both your tires and brakes are pieces of shit

        • Allure

          Having a racing background I can confidently tell you that gta 5′s ‘driving’ sucked. It seems like it’s built for kids who like evading the police at velocity speeds. The driving is so far away from “racing” it’s not funny and if you think it’s close to, or inspired by racing you’re delusional. You’ve played too much “need for speed” I think.

          Gta 4 was well done, the suspension actually travels and the weight from the car gets shifted around realistically, changing the handling characteristics like it should. You have to judge corner entry speed and counter steer if you’re going fast. It actually required some knowledge and technique. Obviously not everyone gets it though…

          on one hand there’s gta 5, where every car is piss easy to control even at very high speeds, as if they’re a formula 1 car…

          On the other hand. In gta 4 you can feel the difference between a cavalcade and a comet, a bus and a bike. Simply put, It’s very well done.

          • Jason

            It was built for kids because a good percentage of the players of GTA V are kids. It’s pretty stupid. They dumbed down a lot of things because they knew that too many idiots would complain about it being too hard. Rockstar sold out on this aspect. And yes with my racing background I can certainly relate to what you are saying, it’s exactly like every car is an F1 car while in GTA IV it was always like driving a real car, it had the feel and handling of it.

          • Travis

            With my driving a car since 16 experience, you guys sound dumb.

          • Travis

            Bullshit, the absolute worst thing about IV was the driving. None of the cars handle like Formula 1 in GTA V. And it’s your main way to travel around a giant map, why would you want it to be like the shitty cars in IV.

  • Guest

    you guys are all massive idiots, haha gta V is much much better than IV..

    • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

      They never said GTA IV was better. They just listed 5 ways that GTA IV beats GTA V. That doesn’t mean they like GTA IV better

      • Just saying

        5 Ways Grand Theft Auto IV is Better Than GTA V

        • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

          Let’s say there’s a game, which we’ll call Game #1. Game #1 got an 87 on Metacritic and sold well, so it got a sequel we’ll call Game #2. Game #2 got a 95 on Metacritic and outsold Game #1 by a decent amount. Even though Game #2 was a better game overall, Game #1 was better in some aspects in the same way GTA IV is better than GTA V in some aspects but not better overall (Some people might think GTA IV is better though)

          • Sean Detente

            They didn’t even “overal”, but “Five Ways…” The implication being IV these five things better than V.

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            I know. I was making that point the entire time.

    • George T Coggins

      if your judging the intelligence of others based on your own personal preferences and opinions you have alot to learn

  • Guest

    you guys are all massive idiots, haha gta V is much much better than IV..

    • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

      They never said GTA IV was better. They just listed 5 ways that GTA IV beats GTA V. That doesn’t mean they like GTA IV better

      • Just saying

        5 Ways Grand Theft Auto IV is Better Than GTA V

        • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

          Let’s say there’s a game, which we’ll call Game #1. Game #1 got an 87 on Metacritic and sold well, so it got a sequel we’ll call Game #2. Game #2 got a 95 on Metacritic and outsold Game #1 by a decent amount. Even though Game #2 was a better game overall, Game #1 was better in some aspects in the same way GTA IV is better than GTA V in some aspects but not better overall (Some people might think GTA IV is better though)

          • Sean Detente

            They didn’t even “overal”, but “Five Ways…” The implication being IV these five things better than V.

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            I know. I was making that point the entire time.

          • Frank Lewis

            GTA IV is better

          • Travis

            Idk, I don’t agree with any of these. I’m positive GTA V is better in every way.

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            I always get pulled back into this article… :p

            That’s understandable. Not everyone’s gonna agree with you though.

    • George T Coggins

      if your judging the intelligence of others based on your own personal preferences and opinions you have alot to learn

    • Vitalcookie

      lol definitly

  • Jon ‘Jonny’ Preece

    i agree with radio stations (lack of vice city 80s) and supporting characters. also, the way cars blow up in 5 so quickly, sometimes one collision sets them off. and you die so quickly, cops got too good at head shots! overall gta 5 is so much better than 4 but could be even better still

    • duttymann

      yeah there should have been an 80′s pop channel.

  • Jon ‘Jonny’ Preece

    i agree with radio stations (lack of vice city 80s) and supporting characters. also, the way cars blow up in 5 so quickly, sometimes one collision sets them off. and you die so quickly, cops got too good at head shots! overall gta 5 is so much better than 4 but could be even better still

    • duttymann

      yeah there should have been an 80′s pop channel.

  • Bob

    Muse is in GTA V? Since when?

  • Bob

    Muse is in GTA V? Since when?

  • Barancy Peloma

    haven’t played 5 yet but what bugs the hell out of me with 4 is all the folks calling up wanting to hang out and drink/go bowling/darts play pool etc. that is something i wish i could turn off.

  • Barancy Peloma

    haven’t played 5 yet but what bugs the hell out of me with 4 is all the folks calling up wanting to hang out and drink/go bowling/darts play pool etc. that is something i wish i could turn off.

    • SUGI PULA

      You can turn if off easily…just use your phone options. Why do so many people complain about something which is so easily disabled?

      • Barancy Peloma

        i have tried- it didn’t work. they keep calling.

        • SUGI PULA

          A. Menu.
          B. Options.
          C. Turn Sleep Mode On.
          D. Yes.

          No more calls…it works every time. If you want to continue with the story, you have to get out of Sleep Mode. (I only disable the phone when I free roam or try out new mods).

  • Chris Howard

    MUSIC – im stilling working my way through the channels but so far have been very happy with the selection, if you don’t like/care about hardcore then this is not an issue.

    PC modding – this is just stupid, Not since GTA 2 has GTA been released on PC at the same time as consoles. It usually takes about 6 months to a year before the PC release so i don’t understand your reasoning as GTA IV took 6 months before the PC release and then months for modders to get to work on it, also to say that GTA IV was better after 6 years of mods is kinda stupid and short sighted, who knows how good GTA V will look after 6 years of mods.

    Comedians – i did this once when GTA IV came out, it was cool that they where there but once i had seen their shows i had no reason to ever go back.

    Characters – this is a personal one, i didn’t really care for the characters in GTA IV, Niko was boring, Roman was annoying, Brucie was a spaz, i liked jacob because of the “clucking bell, Nice!” line but that was about it, in the GTA V i find Michael to be a bit of a dick, Trevor is awesome and crazy and Franklin is probably the easiest to relate to in that he’s not a psychopath.

    GTA Online – im not that fussed about the real world cash for GTA$$, there are only a limited number of things to buy in this game that can benefit you, they will have limits on property purchasing, IE they will not allow 1 rich player to buy all the properties. in re to guns and mods, you can kill someone with a few shots to the head with a pistol so you can kill a character with the best gun if you get the jump on them.

    Anyway this list of reason why GTA IV is better is quite flawed, it seems you are looking at GTA IV with rose coloured glasses

  • Chris Howard

    MUSIC – im stilling working my way through the channels but so far have been very happy with the selection, if you don’t like/care about hardcore then this is not an issue.

    PC modding – this is just stupid, Not since GTA 2 has GTA been released on PC at the same time as consoles. It usually takes about 6 months to a year before the PC release so i don’t understand your reasoning as GTA IV took 6 months before the PC release and then months for modders to get to work on it, also to say that GTA IV was better after 6 years of mods is kinda stupid and short sighted, who knows how good GTA V will look after 6 years of mods.

    Comedians – i did this once when GTA IV came out, it was cool that they where there but once i had seen their shows i had no reason to ever go back.

    Characters – this is a personal one, i didn’t really care for the characters in GTA IV, Niko was boring, Roman was annoying, Brucie was a spaz, i liked jacob because of the “clucking bell, Nice!” line but that was about it, in the GTA V i find Michael to be a bit of a dick, Trevor is awesome and crazy and Franklin is probably the easiest to relate to in that he’s not a psychopath.

    GTA Online – im not that fussed about the real world cash for GTA$$, there are only a limited number of things to buy in this game that can benefit you, they will have limits on property purchasing, IE they will not allow 1 rich player to buy all the properties. in re to guns and mods, you can kill someone with a few shots to the head with a pistol so you can kill a character with the best gun if you get the jump on them.

    Anyway this list of reason why GTA IV is better is quite flawed, it seems you are looking at GTA IV with rose coloured glasses

  • Trollzor

    I miss the police and assassination missions from IV

    • SUGI PULA

      THIS.

  • Trollzor

    I miss the police and assassination missions from IV

    • SUGI PULA

      THIS.

  • davoz28

    THANK YOU. Sick of seeing these guys get credit for LESS WORK. Yes the map is better but THATS IT. 4s story is MUCH better than 5 and there arent near enough missions on 5. All show no content.

    • Stanley Arcane

      There’s plenty of content, but yes the story itself is a let down. Huge potential wasted on GTA Online, the reason right there.

      • Freddy

        no its not, the story is WAY better in V

        • SUGI PULA

          You’re insane…GTA4′s story is 10 times better that GTA5. GTA5′s map may be a lot bigger (and it looks pretty decent) but it’s a huge empty space and boring as hell. They should have added another city instead of all that useless countryside. 4 had better characters too…sorry, but 5 just doesn’t live up to all the hype. Very disappointing game all around. And GTA San Andreas still rules. Fact.

          • Sean Detente

            Los Venturas would’ve been cool.

    • Freddy

      are you serious? you must be joking

    • duttymann

      The gta games are beginning to be formulaic…..and it seems they do less and less work with every iteration.. The sever issues, corrupting of main games, and deletion of online characters is something people will not forget easily..

  • davoz28

    THANK YOU. Sick of seeing these guys get credit for LESS WORK. Yes the map is better but THATS IT. 4s story is MUCH better than 5 and there arent near enough missions on 5. All show no content.

    • Stanley Arcane

      There’s plenty of content, but yes the story itself is a let down. Huge potential wasted on GTA Online, the reason right there.

      • Freddy

        no its not, the story is WAY better in V

        • SUGI PULA

          You’re insane…GTA4′s story is 10 times better that GTA5. GTA5′s map may be a lot bigger (and it looks pretty decent) but it’s a huge empty space and boring as hell. They should have added another city instead of all that useless countryside. 4 had better characters too…sorry, but 5 just doesn’t live up to all the hype. Very disappointing game all around. And GTA San Andreas still rules. Fact.

          • Sean Detente

            Los Venturas would’ve been cool.

          • SUGI PULA

            Indeed. Lazy Rock$tar could’ve done so much more with this game…

    • Freddy

      are you serious? you must be joking

    • duttymann

      The gta games are beginning to be formulaic…..and it seems they do less and less work with every iteration.. The sever issues, corrupting of main games, and deletion of online characters is something people will not forget easily..

  • KingIcarus

    i will agree with the comedy clubs but everything else is false. The supporting characters are great in GTAV lamar is by far one of the best characters in the entire series simply because he really captures how some black folk act lol. i was put to tears whenever he showed up in the game. and GTA 4s online was terrible and had hardly anything to do

    • Sean Detente

      As much as I hated the character, I loved him for all the same reasons.

  • KingIcarus

    i will agree with the comedy clubs but everything else is false. The supporting characters are great in GTAV lamar is by far one of the best characters in the entire series simply because he really captures how some black folk act lol. i was put to tears whenever he showed up in the game. and GTA 4s online was terrible and had hardly anything to do

    • Sean Detente

      As much as I hated the character, I loved him for all the same reasons.

  • William Luton

    i think the ydid a console only release so ppl couldnt mod (make themselves god) or change teh game which i agree with ,why buy a game if your gonna change it ,if your that smart to mod a game ,make a game derp dont be an idiot and say your teh greatest just coz you modded a game geez such pansies say that

    • SUGI PULA

      Yeah, mods are terrible…extra vehicles, more weapons, better graphics, bigger maps, new skins, additional missions and everything else that extends the lifetime of a game and keeps the interest in it strong for many years. You, sir, are an idiot. “They did a console only release” because that is what Rock$tar always does…consoles first, PC later. It’s called marketing and maximizing potential profits. Making a game and modding a game are two different things, derp…but it’s pretty obvious that you have NO IDEA why people mod games in the first place. Pansy.

  • William Luton

    i think the ydid a console only release so ppl couldnt mod (make themselves god) or change teh game which i agree with ,why buy a game if your gonna change it ,if your that smart to mod a game ,make a game derp dont be an idiot and say your teh greatest just coz you modded a game geez such pansies say that

    • SUGI PULA

      Yeah, mods are terrible…extra vehicles, more weapons, better graphics, bigger maps, new skins, additional missions and everything else that extends the lifetime of a game and keeps the interest in it strong for many years. You, sir, are an idiot. “They did a console only release” because that is what Rock$tar always does…consoles first, PC later. It’s called marketing and maximizing potential profits. Making a game and modding a game are two different things, derp…but it’s pretty obvious that you have NO IDEA why people mod games in the first place. Pansy.

  • Fry

    The cash cards are there for people who want to get the apartments and start the heists. I’m pretty sure the majority of the people who use those will only use them to move ahead to the meat of the Online mode

  • Fry

    The cash cards are there for people who want to get the apartments and start the heists. I’m pretty sure the majority of the people who use those will only use them to move ahead to the meat of the Online mode

  • Mercedes

    Personally GTA 4 was a let down bc of how awesome san andreas was & you would expect a awesome gta game on PS3. GTA5 is shitting on every open world game period. I love how Rockstar didn’t rush the game unlike most developers like with saints row 4 its garbage the only thing I liked about that game is that Johnnys back.

  • Mercedes

    Personally GTA 4 was a let down bc of how awesome san andreas was & you would expect a awesome gta game on PS3. GTA5 is shitting on every open world game period. I love how Rockstar didn’t rush the game unlike most developers like with saints row 4 its garbage the only thing I liked about that game is that Johnnys back.

    • Vic 2.0

      Nah, San Andreas is still better than GTA 5. Even Sleeping Dogs was better than 5, IMO.

      • Mercedes

        Come on are you serious I liked Sleeping dogs the game wasn’t finished plus there’s not enough gunplay for me personally there’s no chopper etc. there was lots of things missing still liked it. Sorry GTA5 is one of those games you can play over and over again.

        • Vic 2.0

          I feel the exact opposite, concerning that last statement. Found SD more replayable, because of all the additions to the genre itself. And everything I wanted to do that wasn’t in Sleeping Dogs was in GTA: San Andreas, and I enjoyed SA more than 5 when it came to gameplay. It has choppers too, plus a ton of cool features/activities GTA 5 DOESN’T have. No, I don’t consider yoga a good tradeoff for not being able to do the emergency vehicle missions, buy additional safe houses, take part in a gang war, fly on a jetpack, etc.

  • duttymann

    GTA 4 didnt have server issues of this magnitude.. but then again it wasnt as complicated as gta 5 online..but still the experience was still better so far.. i am supper annoyed at rockstar right now..i am pissed off because my character was deleted.. imagine if this sort of thing happened to call duty? you grind and grind and grind and then you come back to play your game and baaaaaaaaaam your guy is deleted.. wtf!!!!!

  • duttymann

    GTA 4 didnt have server issues of this magnitude.. but then again it wasnt as complicated as gta 5 online..but still the experience was still better so far.. i am supper annoyed at rockstar right now..i am pissed off because my character was deleted.. imagine if this sort of thing happened to call duty? you grind and grind and grind and then you come back to play your game and baaaaaaaaaam your guy is deleted.. wtf!!!!!

  • IchiYamamoto

    What I love about V is that my friends don’t care if I ignore them or what I choose to do with them.
    That being said – I hate that they run off if the heat gets to be too much for them. Or when I pick them up while being chased.
    Even more – I want to switch between them when I have them all hanging out together.

  • IchiYamamoto

    What I love about V is that my friends don’t care if I ignore them or what I choose to do with them.
    That being said – I hate that they run off if the heat gets to be too much for them. Or when I pick them up while being chased.
    Even more – I want to switch between them when I have them all hanging out together.

  • Max Walker

    Seriously better supporting characters. You must be one strange being if you enjoy “cousin let’s go bowling” every 5 minutes. The characters are dull niko just a boring Eastern European man. Franklin, Michael and Trevor are brilliant characters and the supporting characters are fun too. Also the multiplayer is better especially when the Create Jobs mode arrives so you can jump right in.

    • Lesliam Uricoechea

      Max Thank you! I was just about to say how fucking boring the characters in Gta 4 were. What’s wrong with some of these people..

  • Max Walker

    Seriously better supporting characters. You must be one strange being if you enjoy “cousin let’s go bowling” every 5 minutes. The characters are dull niko just a boring Eastern European man. Franklin, Michael and Trevor are brilliant characters and the supporting characters are fun too. Also the multiplayer is better especially when the Create Jobs mode arrives so you can jump right in.

    • Lesliam Uricoechea

      Max Thank you! I was just about to say how fucking boring the characters in Gta 4 were. What’s wrong with some of these people..

      • SpectreN7

        I never had the problem with “cousin let’s go bowling” every 5 minutes. GTA 5 Console peasant

  • makz

    “But artists like Muse and Suicidal Tendencies just don’t have the same impact as Kanye West or Queen”

    You do realise A kind of Magic, by Queen is in GTA V?

    Stupid article.

  • makz

    “But artists like Muse and Suicidal Tendencies just don’t have the same impact as Kanye West or Queen”

    You do realise A kind of Magic, by Queen is in GTA V?

    Stupid article.

  • Willy McBurgle

    I have to agree on the soundtrack – HUGE disappointment there. I’m really pleased with the Tangerine Dream touch – but the radio stations have really detached from what used to be a guaranteed eclectic palate of music stretching from hip hop to hard rock. That is simply not the case with GTA5 and many of the song choices, while original, are not up to the standard I’ve come to expect.

  • DiFiasco

    I have to agree on the soundtrack – HUGE disappointment there. I’m really pleased with the Tangerine Dream touch – but the radio stations have really detached from what used to be a guaranteed eclectic palate of music stretching from hip hop to hard rock. That is simply not the case with GTA5 and many of the song choices, while original, are not up to the standard I’ve come to expect.

  • JuanTizmo

    I agree with the comedian part and that’s it. GTAIV and GTAV are both lacking in the music department. The commercials, DJs, all that stuff is great, but the song selection has sucked since San Andreas.

  • JuanTizmo

    I agree with the comedian part and that’s it. GTAIV and GTAV are both lacking in the music department. The commercials, DJs, all that stuff is great, but the song selection has sucked since San Andreas.

    • Vic 2.0

      Almost EVERYTHING has sucked since San Andreas, when you think about it…

  • CComry

    It’s all a matter of personal preference. But t’s definitely pointless to try and contrast the two.

  • CComry

    It’s all a matter of personal preference. But t’s definitely pointless to try and contrast the two.

  • Thomas Kritzer

    San Andreas had the best radio stations. They magnificently managed to choose the genres that people say they will listen to anything except…. and then choose songs from these genres that everyone liked anyway.

    • Sean Detente

      Wrong. Vice City had the best radio stations. Not even subjective, but plain FACT.

  • Thomas Kritzer

    San Andreas had the best radio stations. They magnificently managed to choose the genres that people say they will listen to anything except…. and then choose songs from these genres that everyone liked anyway.

    • Sean Detente

      Wrong. Vice City had the best radio stations. Not even subjective, but plain FACT.

      • Vic 2.0

        My vote goes to San Andreas’ soundtrack, but it doesn’t win by a lot.

  • Celso Pïn Júnior

    I stopped at “Suicidal Tendencies just don’t have the same impact as Kanye West”…

  • Celso Pïn Júnior

    I stopped at “Suicidal Tendencies just don’t have the same impact as Kanye West”…

    • Travis

      I should have stopped at “5 way GTA IV is better than GTA V.”

  • basstedson

    umm your joking about the radio stations right GTA fours were of exceptionally poor quality for the series, and the supporting characters wade and poor long suffering Floyd are standouts here along with Lamar, and what about going to watch a movie or walking Franklin’s dog as a way to connect with the protagonists? How about playing some tennis with michael’s wife? I have to call shenanigans on this article

    • Sean Detente

      Tennis was already in the game anyway, regardless of the wife; dog walking was neat, but utterly pointless (connecting with the protagonist? LOL; walk a dog in real life, not whilst pretending to be gangsta in a video walking a dog in a video game);

      Agree with you on Lamar and Floyd, though.

  • basstedson

    umm your joking about the radio stations right GTA fours were of exceptionally poor quality for the series, and the supporting characters wade and poor long suffering Floyd are standouts here along with Lamar, and what about going to watch a movie or walking Franklin’s dog as a way to connect with the protagonists? How about playing some tennis with michael’s wife? I have to call shenanigans on this article

    • Sean Detente

      Tennis was already in the game anyway, regardless of the wife; dog walking was neat, but utterly pointless (connecting with the protagonist? LOL; walk a dog in real life, not whilst pretending to be gangsta in a video walking a dog in a video game);

      Agree with you on Lamar and Floyd, though.

    • sdfag

      GTA V’s radio stations were by far the worst of the GTA series imo, i’m a dude that likes almost every kind of music but has a preference for rock and metal and i could select any radio station in San Andreas and i’d be happy, be it bounce fm, csr, k-jah, k-rose, sf-ur, master sounds, radio LS, playback or the glorious Radio X and K-DST, in IV i had a smaller list but i could still put any of those radio stations in that list and listen to them for hours, what about GTA V? I’d call them boring, noisy, shitty, weird, lame dadrock or retarded(east los fm), but all that is just my opinion
      TL:DR San Andreas and IV kick V’s ass in terms of music selection by a mile

      • SUGI PULA

        Seriously…GTA V is just screaming for an underground Metal station.

    • Jacobi Coriolanus

      Floyd and Lamar suck. A pitiable methhead juggalo and an angry Buck with fake Apache heritage like the black “white” supremacist from Generation Kill.

      The people in IV were designed after the linearity of San Andreas, you see a lot more dynamism emerge around TBOGT but someone with potential like Little Jacob and the wholly cool Packie (I hated how they made him a mouthy has been in V… he could have been so much more) doesn’t exist in V. Most of the people in IV grow on you if you understand the emotional turmoil of the game, except for Kate which just never went where Rockstar wanted it to go. By then end of V you want to be done with pretentious Lester and Michael’s midlife crisis, or like just when you think Franklin has it made he shows an amazing inability to mature without regressing. The premise of Steve Haines being incompetent while supposedly “intimidating” was far more annoying for the storyline than Roman’s toddleresque fear of bowling alone.

      Check out the strangers and freaks v. the random characters in IV. I don’t know if Rockstar will ever top Eddie Lowe again. I got my hopes up with Ursula but unfortunately she’s just a useless detached nympho, Altruist Cult food in my opinion. Mostly what I noticed in GTA V is the characters’ just don’t really ever change their outlook on anything or show any awareness of whats going on other than aspiring to be record setting thieves. Michael can rob the UD but not outthink the dumbest FIB agent alive? Trevor can destroy the Blaine County meth trade in an afternoon but can’t blow up a Triad boss who hangs out with minimal guards in front of a motel when his son buys alcohol on a credit card until a strange coincidence where all three “villains” are conspicuously exposed with minimal conditions and accessible by people who may not even know what they look like? In some ways the protagonists of V are kind of “dumb” and encapsulate the ethos of putting a lot of work into working around the law but not much work to fix the things they hate about their lives. None of which are serious.

    • Jacobi Coriolanus

      Sorry, Wade is the junkie. Floyd is another annoying useless whipped character who makes Roman look like a pimp. And honestly I didn’t even like Roman that much, primarily because its his fault Niko’s a criminal to begin with given his gambling debts to the Albanians and Vlad which kick off the storyline.

      By the time V is over you just realize Michael’s family is horrible and never get attached to anyone else… I mean Lamar IS an idiot going for a Darwin award. The social sphere in IV was a lot more personable, particularly with the DLCs flashing out character development. Except Elizabeta Torres and Playboy X.

  • Buddy Jackson

    Must agree with majority of posters on here. This article sounds like it was written by someone who doesn’t own a console so has only played GTA V at his mates house or better still, has made up this whole diatribe after having read up on the game without playing it. It goes without saying that GTA has got better on each new version (if we count the spinoffs as part of their respective originals). Yeah I loved the 80s vibe of Vice City but San Andreas wiped the floor with it. So GTA IV wasn’t as over the top as San An, but again the story, depth, etc made it a much more perfected experience. And as for the latest installment, it’s like Rockstar have invented the video game equivalent of a wet dream.
    The music is awesome, listen to the stations in full for a while instead of flicking around searching for a track you know like a woman stuck in traffic. Songs you never heard suddenly have meaning. Songs you have forgotten bring back memories. Personally I love how you are introduced to the songs that modern artists sample in tracks you already love (Haboglobatribin a prefect example)
    This article might as well be titled Reasons why £10 is better than £20. And the only reason being that the author only has £10.

    • Sean Detente

      Sorry, but the one point – moddability of IV on the PC, makes its a superior game.

      • SUGI PULA

        It certainly does. GTA IV PC + iCEnhancer / ENB + car mods + Route 66 or Countryside Mountains V + LCPDFR = better than “vanilla” GTA V on antiquated console hardware. But we can’t expect the console fanboys to understand such “complex” topics. =)))

  • Buddy Jackson

    Must agree with majority of posters on here. This article sounds like it was written by someone who doesn’t own a console so has only played GTA V at his mates house or better still, has made up this whole diatribe after having read up on the game without playing it. It goes without saying that GTA has got better on each new version (if we count the spinoffs as part of their respective originals). Yeah I loved the 80s vibe of Vice City but San Andreas wiped the floor with it. So GTA IV wasn’t as over the top as San An, but again the story, depth, etc made it a much more perfected experience. And as for the latest installment, it’s like Rockstar have invented the video game equivalent of a wet dream.
    The music is awesome, listen to the stations in full for a while instead of flicking around searching for a track you know like a woman stuck in traffic. Songs you never heard suddenly have meaning. Songs you have forgotten bring back memories. Personally I love how you are introduced to the songs that modern artists sample in tracks you already love (Haboglobatribin a prefect example)
    This article might as well be titled Reasons why £10 is better than £20. And the only reason being that the author only has £10.

    • Sean Detente

      Sorry, but the one point – moddability of IV on the PC, makes its a superior game.

      • SUGI PULA

        It certainly does. GTA IV PC + iCEnhancer / ENB + car mods + Route 66 or Countryside Mountains V + LCPDFR = better than “vanilla” GTA V on antiquated console hardware. But we can’t expect the console fanboys to understand such “complex” topics. =)))

  • Eric Vance

    2 of these are very subjective. I prefer the radio on 5 and also the supporting characters. GTA 4 characters annoyed the crap out of me. Also the PC version of GTA always comes after the console version… give it time people.

    • Sean Detente

      No GTA sountrack was ever as good, or befitting, as that of Vice City. It’s all been downhill since. Nothing subjective about that FACT.

  • Eric Vance

    2 of these are very subjective. I prefer the radio on 5 and also the supporting characters. GTA 4 characters annoyed the crap out of me. Also the PC version of GTA always comes after the console version… give it time people.

    • Sean Detente

      No GTA sountrack was ever as good, or befitting, as that of Vice City. It’s all been downhill since. Nothing subjective about that FACT.

      • SUGI PULA

        If anything, Vice City’s soundtrack fits the game best…San Andreas would come in second place.

      • Vic 2.0

        I would say GTA: San Andreas’ soundtrack was better, for its sheer diversity. But Vice City’s was a close second. As far as matching the game goes? GTA 3

  • Gambis3

    LOL!!!! Gta 4 is so old i imagined me playing in the 50′s when i got the game. Gta 5 is a whole different story. i could list 1,000,000,000,000 ways why gta 5 is much better than gta 4.

    • SUGI PULA

      Cool…and you’d get “1,000,000,000,000″ points for blatant fanboyism.
      San Andreas > 4 > 5

      • Sean Detente

        OMFG, how do you even put on those rose-colored nostalgia glasses?

        • SUGI PULA

          It’s simple…San Andreas was better than 4 which was better than 5. Just because something is new does NOT automatically make it “better.”

  • Gambis3

    LOL!!!! Gta 4 is so old i imagined me playing in the 50′s when i got the game. Gta 5 is a whole different story. i could list 1,000,000,000,000 ways why gta 5 is much better than gta 4.

    • SUGI PULA

      Cool…and you’d get “1,000,000,000,000″ points for blatant fanboyism.
      San Andreas > 4 > 5

      • Sean Detente

        OMFG, how do you even put on those rose-colored nostalgia glasses?

        • SUGI PULA

          It’s simple…San Andreas was better than 4 which was better than 5. Just because something is new does NOT automatically make it “better.”

          • Vic 2.0

            Agreed. And why do people just assume it’s about nostalgia? Maybe we think tons of buyable safe houses and gang wars plus emergency vehicle missions > emergency vehicle missions > yoga?

  • SUGI PULA

    The story in GTA5 is as bland and as dull as the 3 main characters…GTA4 is much better in these regards and the driving wasn’t as dumbed down (easy) as it is in 5. Sure, the map is bigger in 5 but why add all of that lifeless countryside instead of another city to explore? 4 felt larger even though it was much smaller. 5 may look a little prettier but the game does NOT live up to all the hype. It’s grossly overrated and I’m very disappointed. Looks like GTA San Andreas is still the best GTA ever. Last point, I totally agree about the music…but Suicidal kicks serious ass. Kanye West?! LMFAO…get real, dude. His “music” is almost as bad as this game’s shortcomings.

  • SUGI PULA

    The story in GTA5 is as bland and as dull as the 3 main characters…GTA4 is much better in these regards and the driving wasn’t as dumbed down (easy) as it is in 5. Sure, the map is bigger in 5 but why add all of that lifeless countryside instead of another city to explore? 4 felt larger even though it was much smaller. 5 may look a little prettier but the game does NOT live up to all the hype. It’s grossly overrated and I’m very disappointed. Looks like GTA San Andreas is still the best GTA ever. Last point, I totally agree about the music…but Suicidal kicks serious ass. Kanye West?! LMFAO…get real, dude. His “music” is almost as bad as this game’s shortcomings.

    • marco

      I think when/if GTA 5 comes out for PC you’ll say it’s better than IV xD

      • SUGI PULA

        GTA V will be on PC for certain…and yeah, I will like it more than the Xbone 360 version which happens to be a POS. But as far as the story is concerned, IV is still better…actually, so is Vice City and San Andreas.

    • Vic 2.0

      I agree about SA still being the best GTA. The upgrade in graphics wasn’t worth all the great features/activities they took out to make 5.

      • SUGI PULA

        Exactly…and there’s way too much filler in the game which does NOT give you “100 hours of game play” (as Rock$tar claims). Too many repetitive side “activities” which are boring and practically the same…the game is more like 35 hours of actual game play. After 265 million dollars and five years of development?! Very poor, Rock$tar…very poor indeed.

        • Vic 2.0

          But, but, you can see digital boobies!

          • SUGI PULA

            Granted…but I’d rather steal cars, run over prostitutes and shoot people between the eyes…you know, GTA stuff. LOL

          • Vic 2.0

            Naturally! Of course I was just being sarcastic. Quite frankly, the shock and awe of seeing nudity/sex in video games is so OVER I’d be fine if they took it out completely. If I want porn, the internet is always there! What other purpose does it really serve other than to make 12-year old boys beg their mommies and daddies to buy the game for them? And especially when you know you’re putting out a game that is sub-standard in terms of actual gameplay, you should put that development time to better use and GIVE ME BACK MY DAMN JETPACK! Hehe ;)

          • SUGI PULA

            Heh, right on target…it’s all marketing bullshit. As for the jet-packs, I don’t “miss” them because I use mods if they’re not available in the game. I currently have 3 in GTA IV…no thanks to Rock$tar! LOL

  • Josh

    this is a stupid artcile, the mod part makes no sense, supporting characters were way better in V, how does the microtransactions change a thing and who cares about sitting at a comedy club i can do that in RL

    • Sean Detente

      What doesn’t make sense about the mods? The PC release containing the same game, plus the opportunity to drastically improve the game through modifications is a something consoles simply don’t possess. That doesn’t make sense? GTFO.

  • Josh

    this is a stupid artcile, the mod part makes no sense, supporting characters were way better in V, how does the microtransactions change a thing and who cares about sitting at a comedy club i can do that in RL

    • Sean Detente

      What doesn’t make sense about the mods? The PC release containing the same game, plus the opportunity to drastically improve the game through modifications is a something consoles simply don’t possess. That doesn’t make sense? GTFO.

      • SUGI PULA

        It “doesn’t make sense” to a jealous console fanboy…which is typical. I love their pretexts regarding why “PCs suck.” Morons.

      • Myrdraal

        Doesn’t make sense because the same thing will happen to GTAV once its released on PC later this year.

        • SUGI PULA

          Perhaps March or April at the latest…but given Rock$tar’s incompetence, I’d say Summer 2014 is more likely. Time will tell…

    • Vic 2.0

      Let’s not talk about things you can do in real life, because GTA 5 pretty much consists of just that. After all, you can’t hop in a police car, ambulance, or fire truck and just get to work as one of them = reason why they took it out of GTA 5, most likely. But you can do yoga! Why? Because it’s one of the most boring aspects of the real world, of course!

  • Sean Detente

    GTA V not yet released on PC, number one reason why IV is still better.

  • Sean Detente

    GTA V not yet released on PC, number one reason why IV is still better.

    • SUGI PULA

      Amen to that.

  • geminiman7

    GTA4 had much more TV stations too

  • geminiman7

    GTA4 had much more TV stations too

    • DPFinland

      Yeah Vladivostok FM was the best.l

  • Vic 2.0

    Who cares? Sleeping Dogs is better than both.

    “Even 5?”, you say? YES! For countless reasons, it’s just plain more fun. Slightly better graphics do not make a better game, nor does a huge map when there’s little (that’s fun) to do in that map considering its size. Getting from one side of the map to the other is a hassle if not a bore, the characters and the story are pathetic compared to those in SD, and even the lamest extraneous content in SD (karaoke and cockfighting) blows the lamest of extra content in GTA 5 (dog training and yoga) out of the water. That’s not to speak of the hand to hand and melee combat which is infinitely better in Sleeping Dogs, as are the abilities surrounding gunplay and hijacking cars while driving alongside one and hopping onto its roof from your own vehicle, etc.

    Let’s see here. You can buy a vehicle, destroy it, and go back to your garage for another one. Skill/perk progression is easily superior. There are minor things that make it better as well, from the ability to take a human shield to the ability to put someone in your trunk and drive around with them to the ability to frickin use your cell phone and car door at the same time! Even the collectibles give you more incentive to run around looking for them, in both terms of their rewards and the likelihood you will actually find something (also thanks to the enormous map in 5). Lastly, consider that Hong Kong is an entirely new location in every way, whereas Los Santos is really just a fraction of the same map you played back in 2004. Sure, they added some places but they took out a lot of the content that made San Andreas so great (e.g., more enterable buildings, the jetpack, more extensive real estate opportunities, etc.) so it’s a wash.

    Flying and skydiving? That’s what Just Cause 2 is for! GTA 5 is an altogether unneeded game… unless you want to watch porn but can’t admit it to your friends, I
    guess? Or have an addiction to the word “f***” :P

    And emergency vehicle missions! Where tha heck are they! Gone.

    GTA 5 = One big, beautiful disappointment, as was 4. I do hope they step it up someday. I don’t want to have to stay in Hong Kong just to play an all around decent open world crime game!

  • Vic 2.0

    Who cares? Sleeping Dogs is better than both.

    “Even 5?”, you say? YES! For countless reasons, it’s just plain more fun. Slightly better graphics do not make a better game, nor does a huge map when there’s little (that’s fun) to do in that map considering its size. Getting from one side of the map to the other is a hassle if not a bore, the characters and the story are pathetic compared to those in SD, and even the lamest extraneous content in SD (karaoke and cockfighting) blows the lamest of extra content in GTA 5 (dog training and yoga) out of the water. That’s not to speak of the hand to hand and melee combat which is infinitely better in Sleeping Dogs, as are the abilities surrounding gunplay and hijacking cars while driving alongside one and hopping onto its roof from your own vehicle, etc.

    Let’s see here. You can buy a vehicle, destroy it, and go back to your garage for another one. Skill/perk progression is easily superior. There are minor things that make it better as well, from the ability to take a human shield to the ability to put someone in your trunk and drive around with them to the ability to frickin use your cell phone and car door at the same time! Even the collectibles give you more incentive to run around looking for them, in both terms of their rewards and the likelihood you will actually find something (also thanks to the enormous map in 5). Lastly, consider that Hong Kong is an entirely new location in every way, whereas Los Santos is really just a fraction of the same map you played back in 2004. Sure, they added some places but they took out a lot of the content that made San Andreas so great (e.g., more enterable buildings, the jetpack, more extensive real estate opportunities, etc.) so it’s a wash.

    Flying and skydiving? That’s what Just Cause 2 is for! GTA 5 is an altogether unneeded game… unless you want to watch porn but can’t admit it to your friends, I
    guess? Or have an addiction to the word “f***” :P

    And emergency vehicle missions! Where tha heck are they! Gone.

    GTA 5 = One big, beautiful disappointment, as was 4. I do hope they step it up someday. I don’t want to have to stay in Hong Kong just to play an all around decent open world crime game!

    • SUGI PULA

      Rather well put…but to be fair, GTA IV is awesome after you mod the living shit out of it. GTA V is a huge disappointment…after it comes to PC and the modding community does what needs to be done, I’m sure it will be acceptable. On consoles, it’s an epic fail. Fact.

      • factually speaking

        None of you modder computer faggots get any puxxy fact

        • SUGI PULA

          You sound like a typical filthy console peasant…who is probably still a virgin and lives with mommy and daddy. I hope you get raped by the family dog. <3

          • PStashion Dontwork

            ^^ This guy molests little kids at his local pre-school. his motto is “Here’s Captain Diddles with my bag of skittles”

          • SUGI PULA

            And you’re a filthy console peasant…who dates other boys. Typical of your crowd. You “guys” should try a circle jerk…at max settings hahaha… Stop stalking me, you console fag…your boyfriend might become more jealous than you are over The Master Race. You pitiful cretin…you fail worse than your Xbone Yawn. Retard. Btw, even FailStation Bore owns you hahaha… -l-

          • marco

            So everything the other guy said was true?xD that guy probably has a life seeing as how PC gamers just tend to stay on a porn machine all day.

          • SUGI PULA

            “So everything the other guy said was true?xD”

            If you believe bullshit, I suppose it’s “true”…you peasants never did have any appreciation for facts. LOL

            “that guy probably has a life”

            Stalking straight men online while posting pictures of shemales on his Facebook = “a life?” You peasants sure have a strange way of looking at things hahaha…

            “seeing as how PC gamers just tend to stay on a porn machine all
            day.”

            Newsflash: a PC can do other things. But I wouldn’t expect a console fanboy to understand. LOL

          • marco

            I’ve seen you say PC gamers also play on console and you don’t consider yourself a PC supremacist but seems like you are full of shit and very hypocritical. Must be livin’ the life man, I mean preaching about how good PC gaming is? PC’s are pretty cool but console’s aren’t that bad either. Get balls and fight somebody in real life or something settle the never ending arguments that you start.

          • SUGI PULA

            I’ve seen you say PC gamers also play on console and you don’t consider yourself a PC supremacist”

            I say it because most PC gamers (myself included) game on other platforms too (including consoles for exclusives, mobile platforms, Linux, etc.)…and there’s no such thing as “a PC supremacist.” This is a console fanboy myth.

            “but seems like you are full of shit and very hypocritical.”

            Why? Because I point out the PC’s advantages over every console’s limitations? What’s “hypocritical” about this?

            “Must be livin’ the life man, I mean preaching about how
            good PC gaming is?”

            It’s called educating the imbeciles…most console fanboys have no idea that a gaming PC can use any controller, a television or run games from EVERY console generation. I’m providing a free service: information. Understand? LOL

            “PC’s are pretty cool but console’s aren’t that bad either.”

            PCs are more than “pretty cool”…even a mid-level gaming rig can rape any console including “next gen.” Ignore the marketing hype and look at the damn specs…consoles are garbage and I’ve owned enough of them to understand. In case you didn’t know, a console is the worst form of DRM. That being said, I’ve never suggested that consoles serve absolutely no purpose…as long as console gamers continue to beta test games and flood developers with tons of cash, better PC ports will be inevitable. All I can say is thanks for doing us the favor…so keep buying that antiquated and inferior hardware. <3

            "Get balls and fight somebody in real life"

            My balls are quite beefy but I appreciate your concern…with regard to this "fighting" which exists in your imagination, I'm merely highlighting certain facts. If you or some other platform fanboy feels insulted by reality, the problem is yours…and it's most likely based on petty jealousy? Why don't you enlighten us…

            "or something settle the never ending arguments that you start."

            Oh? What "arguments" did I "start?" The fact that a PC is the superior gaming platform needs no argument…and if some people wish to state so, why are you taking issue with it?

            Present facts to the contrary or keep your mouth shut and learn…and don't be a censoring Fascist if certain facts upset your fragile little ego. Are we clear, lad?

          • marco

            “PCs are more than “pretty cool”…even a mid-level gaming rig can rape any console including..”

            I could have gone into more specific details about how cool PC’s are but whats they point since you are very educated on it?

            “…What’s “hypocritical” about this?”

            you say PC’s are the best and just about the only thing you game on and imply that you would never consider playing a console then say you are a gamer, gamers will (should) play on any console they can have preferences but shouldn’t avoid any gaming platform.

            “What “arguments” did I “start?”

            The ones you replied back to.

            “and don’t be a censoring Fascist if certain facts upset your fragile little ego. Are we clear, lad?”

            When somebody trys to call you out seems like you retaliate usually more to the comments along the lies of “u are a faggot” or something that sounds childish. This time not so much since I didn’t try to insult your mother or other stuff.

            “there’s no such thing as “a PC supremacist.” This is a console fanboy myth.”

            Then why with all the “filthy console peasant” name calling? That usually implies that you do think that you are better.

            “console gamers continue to beta test games and flood developers with tons of cash, better PC ports will be inevitable….”

            This made me think of the Halo 3 PC version that never was made xD sorry just a little off-topic.

          • SUGI PULA

            “I could have gone into more specific details about how cool PC’s are but whats they point since you are very educated on it?”

            The point might be to educate others…not myself.

            “you say PC’s are the best and just about the only thing you game on”

            Primarily, yes…I also game on Android, Linux, my old 360 (though I hardly touch it these days) and my girlfriend’s PS3 for a few exclusives.

            “and imply that you would never consider playing a console”

            This was / is YOUR interpretation of what I stated.

            “then say you are a gamer, gamers will (should) play on any console they can have preferences but shouldn’t avoid any gaming platform.”

            Correct…as long as their “gaming needs” are met. However, this does not change the fact that a PC is the superior gaming platform. This was (and STILL is) my primary point.

            “The ones you replied back to.”

            Well, you may have viewed them as “arguments” but from my vantage point, this is merely a discussion like so many others concerning gaming and / or gaming platforms…unfortunately, things are usually taken out of context or misinterpreted. It is hardly my fault if certain people can’t read / comprehend or if they continue to make baseless assumptions.

            “When somebody trys to call you out seems like you retaliate usually more to the comments along the lies of “u are a faggot” or something that sounds childish.”

            Lad, I respond to everyone accordingly and on their level. Act like an immature imbecile and I will rip you to shreds…present solid arguments in a mature / intelligent manner and you shall be addressed with all the sophistication you deserve. I’m a “mirror.” If certain creatures are disturbed by their own reflections, it may be advisable for them to reevaluate a few things…

            “This time not so much since I didn’t try to insult your mother or other stuff.”

            Again, I address everyone as they deserve…no more, no less.

            “Then why with all the “filthy console peasant” name calling? That usually implies that you do think that you are better.”

            Hardly…it’s a “tongue-in-cheek” comment directed at those who game exclusively on consoles while they belittle every other gaming platform…the same morons who can be credited with inventing the “PC Master Race” nonsense. You’ll notice, it’s always these same peasants who start console flame wars on just about every single gaming forum. Again, I give them what they deserve…they are hardly in a position to complain.

            “This made me think of the Halo 3 PC version that never was made xD sorry just a little off-topic.”

            No, not particularly…but I can think of several other titles and so can you. ;-)

            Cheers.

    • marco

      Sleeping (with) Dogs sucks

      • Vic 2.0

        I had a frickin’ blast with it, myself. What didn’t you like about it?

        • marco

          idk mostly the driving its good when you are bored and good for some achievements

          • Vic 2.0

            Not a fan of arcade-style driving, I take it? IIRC, GTA 5 has more arcadey driving than GTA 4 (though not as “bad” as Sleeping Dogs, I will admit).

            Once I got used to the controls in SD (which you have to with every game), I had no problems with the driving. I particularly liked how the GPS put arrows on the road so I wouldn’t have to keep looking at the mini-map so much like you do in 5. What’s the point in having top-of-the-line graphics if you’re constantly “playing the mini-map”, you know?

            And don’t even get me started on vehicle damage in GTA 5!

          • marco

            xD yeah i agree with you maybe I’m just used to GTA but Sleeping Dogs is pretty good now that I actually played it

          • SUGI PULA

            Indeed, SD is a good game…and JC2 is still fantastic.

          • SUGI PULA

            “And don’t even get me started on vehicle damage in GTA 5!”

            Seriously…they totally “Saints Row-ed” it. How many damn things do I have to crash into until the vehicle finally dies? What is this kiddie arcade crap?

            GTA V’s driving and vehicle “damage” = easy…so the kids won’t complain like they did with GTA IV. Stupid morons.

  • Nik Hildebrand

    L.A. is “the birthplace of punk music”? Ignoring all British contributions for the time being, you’re also unfairly disregarding Michigan (MC5 and The Stooges – the iconic proto-punks) and NYC (Velvet Underground, New York Dolls and America’s first punk scene).

    • SUGI PULA

      Indeed…and NYC = Ramones too. And let’s not forget the Misfits from nearby NJ.

  • SUGI PULA

    GTA V needs 6.66 FM, KVLT Radio…True Norwegian Black Metal -l-

    =)))

  • Design Champion

    Los Angeles the birthplace of punk? If by Los Angeles you mean New York and London, then yeah.

    • SUGI PULA

      LA was late to the party…The Ramones (NYC, 1974) and Sham 69 (UK, 1975) were playing / recording years before anything happened on The Left Coast.

  • Vitalcookie

    modding is bad it ruins the game and gta 5 dosent need mods but i admit radio isnt that great

    • The Decline

      Modding is bad? What fucking planet are you on?? I think you may have the wrong Idea of what modding games actually is.

  • http://people.ign.com/ath011 ath011

    Don’t forget the car crashes are better too.

  • Medicopter

    For the creator of this article — IV’s multiplayer is more traditional, mostly DLCs for that kinds of MPs add maps and weapons. Since this isn’t an option for GTA game, there’s no DLC. V’s “GTA Online” just gives players world and freedom to do with it whatever they want, R* make DLCs to expand list of things that you can do in the world, they add vehicles, guns so the players have a reason to play missions that R* adding. And only things that aren’t free is their money bundles, but they just contain money. Money, that you can earn completing missions

  • Carson

    They Need R&B Music and Kevin Hart and Gary Owen as Comedians

  • Kosta Markus

    Go FACT yourselves. What’s up with people here? Arguing about what’s better. Can you actually give it some thought? Consoles have advantages and drawbacks, so do PCs. I have an ultrabook and an Xbox 360 and I find that I use the console much, much more. I also own GTA 4 and GTA 5. I think GTA 4′s driving and damage is much better, the radio is better in GTA 5, but in other places they’re pretty even. Oh, but GTA 4 doesn’t have planes or countryside, that’s missing. I like them both so much, I just switch between them every once in a while. Win-win.

    About that PC vs. Console crap, really? Is there anywhere I can go where they don’t have long-ass arguments about the exact same topic? Admit it, PCs and consoles are pretty even.

    PC:
    +more customizable
    +modding
    -some games are unavailable
    -price for a good PC is high
    Console:
    +exclusive games
    +optimized for your console, speedy
    +good prices
    -modding is hard

    • Serpentarius

      PC:
      +more customizable
      +modding
      -some games are unavailable…exclusives exist on PC too + betas + Linux games + games from all console gens.
      -price for a good PC is high…unless you build it yourself. There’s more to life than Alienware.

      Console:
      +exclusive games…same on PC…no point here.
      +optimized for your console, speedy…which means: reducing resolution, reducing / locking the frame-rates, reducing texture sizes (as well as filtering), reducing model poly counts and out-right limiting / reducing the number of particles in a given scene. Oh yeah, put me down for some of that “optimization” / reduction. No thanks.
      +good prices…with more expensive games and mandatory online fees. Yeah, “great” prices indeed.
      -modding is hard…with no upgrade options, limited choice of controllers and inferior hardware.

      “PC and consoles are pretty even” in your dreams…as someone who games on several platforms, I have never heard anything more ridiculous. By the way, GTA IV has plenty of countryside and planes…thanks to modding. Modded GTA IV on my PC is superior to “vanilla” GTA V on my 360…can’t even compare the games. I will agree on this point: “Consoles have advantages and drawbacks, so do PCs.” Just don’t tell the console fanboys…they’ll accuse you of being “Master Race” or some other console peasant invention. Just saying.

      • Kosta Markus

        Look, I don’t give a sh*t about framerate and textures as long as the downgrade isn’t noticeable. In this case, it isn’t. And I tried to make my own PC by selecting parts and viewing prices, I got $900 for something that can barley play GTA 4. Come on, stop hating, you know consoles have their advantages. $500 for an Xbox One that can play loads of games, for that money you get an email-browsing machine. No, just no. Also, try going online and looking up used Xbox 360s, those come pretty cheap. Around $200. For that, you could buy…a used netbook. Do you see where I’m coming from now?

  • Storm

    Its coming out for PC eventually.

    • Serpentarius

      June to September sounds about right…

  • Camely

    I’d say the Cash cards aren’t so bad, they might give you money, but not RP, and are fully optional.

  • Loop Hole

    I think gta4 is as much better than gta5 as kane and lynch dead men was better than kane and lynch 2 dog days. Dogs days had better graphics and game play than it’s predecessor but it lacked depth and you weren’t made to feel anything for the characters. Gta 4′s cast had more characterisation and the game had a more serious and darker tone all of which made gta 4 more realistic. Gta5 was more fun to play but in a saints row kind of way it didn’t take it self to seriously. For those that just like blowing shit up it won’t fail to disappoint but I like a little more from my games. I found the world in gta4 to be more organic and it’s inhabitants were more convincing. I found my self playing as if I was there in New York in Niko’s shoes, an outsider and new comer, not wanting to draw to much attention to myself. I didn’t go guns blazing or starting unnecessary fights. I avoided attention from police,kept my gun holstered and travelled in cabs and on the underground until I worked my way up the criminal ladder on started to make real money. Now I didn’t have to play like that but my point is, the game was so atmospheric it made me want to. I wanted to go to burgershot and grab a bite or go and pick up Niko’s girlfriend and take her on a date. I actually felt a true sense of anger and betrayal when I found out that the girl Niko and I grew to care for was using Niko to bring down a criminal organisation and only pretending to like him. When Niko cursed at her he was saying what I was thinking in my mind. When Niko lost loved ones in the game I felt his loss. Gta5 just doesn’t have any of that and it is that I am referring to when I say gta5 lacks depth. When I play gta4 I feel like I’m in New York, caring about the in game characters and pedestrians the same way I do when playing games like the Sims. In gta5 I just felt like I was playing another action game.

  • Bianca Calderan

    GTA4 is more important than GTA5, but batter, no way.

  • Kaloyan Trayanov

    Guns don’t have recoil and the cars don’t take enough dmg.

  • Travis

    Yeah Channel X definitely has some punk. I never had fun watching the comedians in IV and the online was soo boring.